Ok I give up. I have searched for this because I know it has been posted before but I cannot find it.

How in the heck do you get html/column to the RIGHT of the forums......

Sorry in advance for the dumb question.

Head:
<table>
<tr>
<td>

Footer:
</td>
<td> right hand side</td>
</tr>
</table>

Thanks David.....

I know this was a "What a idiot" question.

No, but it is one of the most frequently asked questions. The funny thing is, I have often searched for these questions too (when people ask it over and over) and don't always find them. Somehow, people word their question differently every time.

hey all.

i put this in at ... http://spaintalk.multimadrid.org/groupee/forums?a=corfrm&cf=5501053511

... with some numbers as a test but they are all the way on the right.

i would like to have the right html column to the left so that it sticks out no further than the right hand magin of my header and footer so it looks nice n clean.

any tips?

saludos,
jer...

David, Steven, anyone have any advice for me (see post above).

saludos,
jer...

Jer, I'm confused as to what you want to do.

Can you try to explain it again, please?

My initial answer to the Commish was designed to put things over to the right.

hi David, thanks for the response

quote:

Can you try to explain it again, please?

ok, you may regret asking but i have designed a mockup of what i am looking to do.

it is HERE

so, you see, it would be to the right of the dynamic groupee content but not out any further then the confines i have set my pages to (80% of the screen). i currentyl have all layout templates taking up 80% of screen width and that combined with the 80% of my headers and footers, makes the board look nice and streamlined.

the idea is to add a neat column to the right and have it be 100% of the page length (adaptive to the diff. forums and such since pages are often diff. lengths due to content) and approx. 125 pix. wide.

ideally, it would be a table in a table so i could get the blue line border look to work.

ideally each style template i have could have the same column but diff. content (as with my headers and footers).

so, is this easy to do?

i have some design skills but mostly graphic.

i am willing to pay for someone to do this custom for me if need be.

i know it is not a complex thing to do but i can't figure it out as i doo not know much html nor do i know how the dynamic content on groupee works and how i can get this look that i want.

saludos,
jer...

Check out my board and see if that is what you are looking for (except mine is not set to 80% width although it is easy enough to change) and if it is I can post how I set it up. http://expattalk.com/eve

hi siena_us.

yes, that is similar to what i want to do.

thanks so much for offering to "school" me on it.

looks like our communities are similar, yours for italy and mine for spain

saludos,
jer...

Okay, first, I use Frontpage to do my pages. If you are using it great, if not you basically need to set up a page the way you like in another editor. Here is what I wrote in another thread.

Set up your page in Frontpage as you like it. Make sure you have a table for the forum. When I set it up I left MESSAGE BOARD written in the table so I knew where I had to copy from. Then I viewed the code and copy and paste everything after the closing head tag to where I wrote MESSAGE BOARD. Next I copy and paste (in the other box BEFORE closing body tag) everything from after where I wrote MESSAGE BOARD to right before the closing body tag.

I copy everything, includingthe tables.
I copy everything after (body) until where I have MESSAGE BOARD written into the after opening body section. Then I copy everything after MESSAGE BOARD until the last line before the (/body) and put this in the Before closing body section. If you want for me to send you how I have it set up I can via email since I think it will be too long here.


Jonmark also explains this here http://community.groupee.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/797...10748763#63310748763

and the thread from where I copied the above information is here http://community.groupee.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/797...10748763#35310748763

If you need help, you can email what you have set up and I can fix it for you (email is on my site)

Try this Jer


In your header -

<table>
<tr>
<td colspan="2">
Header content here
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2">
A few content islands here :)
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>

And in your footer -

</td>
<td>
I can put anything I want to here
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="2">
This is a footer banner
</td>
</tr>
</table>

hi siena and David.

thanks sooooooooooooo much. i applied both of your advice and am really making progress.

i still have a few issues that perhaps you can help with.

1) the column looks good on thread view pages, see THREAD PAGE HERE but on the forum home pages it does not respect the table width of 120 pix. i gave it, see FORUM HOME PAGE HERE.

2) since groupee does not respect table borders (does not show them), i cannot seem to get the borders look i want for the column. i want the borders to look like the borderss on the rest of the page, super thin and blue. they are blue now but thick as you can see. i got them that way by adding a column to the right and left of the main column. i gave it a width of 1 pix. in frontpage and filled it blue but it is obviously showing thicker.

any ideas on how i can get a border to show in groupee? i started a thread on "is eve border challenged" but no word from anyone on how to show borders. if the board respected borders, i would not need that extra column to fake a border as it is now.

so, as far as i can tell, the above 2 issues are the only thing keeping me from having the board look like THIS.

saludos,
jer...

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sorry for the ugly post, it was unavoidable and it stretched this thread to the right.

saludos,
jer...

ok, on a hunch i wen to my groupie control panel and unchecked the "Display Message View Count" on my display settings for that forum.

behold the right column was adjusted and respected the 120 pix. as it does on the thread views.

i do not really want to sacrifice the "Views" column if there is another way.

saludos,
jer...

Ok, Jer, a few critiques here.

First, see how many </body> and </html> tags you have in there? That isn't where they belong. Those go at the botom of the document only.

Next, don't do this -

<table border="1">

Put the border on the element you want to border.

<td style ="border-right 2px solid #cccccc; border-left 5px dotted #cccccc;">

This gives you a lot more control, you can border an individual table cell, and can control each side of the cell seperately. It's more work getting used to, but the control you have is far greater that way. Once you get used to working with each element it gets a lot easier to do what you want to do.

Give it a try, you'll see

hi David, thanks again.

i removed the extra tags, not sure how they got there, probably from cutting and pasting so much

however, groupee seems to be "border challanged" as it does nto show them, it only shows table background colors. i tried to put borders as you said but groupee does not show them.

UPDATE.

after mega hours of tweakage, trial and error, etc... i have it close to what i want it to look like.

see http://spaintalk.multimadrid.org/groupee/forums/a/frm/f/5501053511

first, i had to sacrifice the "topic views" column as it was eating up too much space.

i have had to use a table in a table to get my look since groupee does not show table borders. i filled the right column with the blue as background color so groupee would show it. that column i made 122 pixels wide (2 more than the table i placed in it in order to show a 1 pix. border on each side). then i placed in that column a table for my column content and gave it the dark beige background color. i made this table 120 pix. wide, 2 less than the column it is in so that the column background color (blue) sticks out 1 pix. on either side of the table. so, i guess you could say i am faking a 1 pix. border left and right by using a background color. again, i had to do this since groupee does not respect and show table borders that users put in. i think the huge amt. of css that groupee uses causes that but am no pro.

since i can adjust the width of the blue filled column and the table in it, i am able to get the "borders" but since i have had to set the column height to 100% so it grows and shrinks with the dynamic board content in threads, etc..., i could not get a 1 pix. top and bottom border... UTILL... i designed an image to do that. i whipped up this image...



... to put at the top of the table that shows my column content.

made it 120 pix long (same as the table that houses my column content) so that solved the problem of the 1 blue border at top

BUT...

i still needed a 1 pix. blue border at the column bottom and this is where i ran into trouble.

you see, since the right column base is a column of the main table (the table with the BOARD CONTENT in it as well) filled with a blue background in order for the right column to grow and shrink along with the BOARD CONTENT, i was unable to get a 1 pix. blue bottom border going.

i also have an issue with browsers.

you see, in MIE, when the content in the column ends, the rest of the column that goes until the bottom of the page is fine, it is the dark beige with the blue border (the way i want it) but in NETSCAPE and FIREFOX, the rest of the column is interpreted as the blue color which is the background color of the main column base (under the content table).

i am not sure why this happens.

you can see what is happening at http://spaintalk.multimadrid.org/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f...1053511/m/7101025171 (a good long thread to illustrate it).

view it with MIE and NETSCAPE or FIREFOX and you will see what i mean.

i am also attaching to this post a .txt file with my after the board content code (see "column.txt" attached below) in the hopes that someone here can tell me how to get that 1 pix. blue bottom border that is ever so escaping me

if i were not such a perfectionist i would just leave it all as is

saludos,
jer...

column.txt (7 Kb, 150 downloads)

Hi Jer,

Groupee uses css for borders. Instead of using a border on a table you'll need to use the style tag, such as

<table style="border:1px solid #color">

I think that the blue is showing up because you have a background color on your TD. That TD is going to grow with the other column. I suggest taking that color out all together. I'll try to give you some code shortly.

April

look at the top line of the attachment, it'll help.

And get rid of the 4 </html> and 3 </body> tags I found in there.

jerry.html (5 Kb, 96 downloads)

hi April and Dave.

yes April, i stated in my post above what i did to get that blue to show. it is the background color of the column below the table with my links and images in it but since it (the colum) is 122 pix. and the table is 120 and centered, 1 pix. shows blue on either side. thanks for the code offer.

Dave, the problem with my using a table like that is that i need to stick it in the right column but a fixed table like the one you attached is not going to grow longer in accord with the length of the thread pages, right?

i am testing your table there at http://spaintalk.multimadrid.org/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f...1053511/m/2711077511 and it ends where the tabe content ends. it also tossed my footer and it looks all wacky now.

i appologize if i did not make myself clear before but to preserve the linear look of the pages, i need for the table to grow longer downwards along with the forum pages so the column reaches the bottom of the page.

oh well, back to the drawing board!

saludos,
jer...

p.d. i will be cleaning up the extra </html> and </body> tags on all my templates when i finalize this column thing, that way i do not have to go in and change things twice.

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