This afternoon I've been looking to set up a change in the title image at the top of my board. I vaguely recall reading that this is possible, but I've been unable to find the preference in the control panel today.

My board's current image is 400x50 pixels, tailored to the old 2.x interface which has the New/Reply/Popit buttons at the top.

However, with the 3.x interface there's no a big gaping space over there since the old buttons have been moved to the tab. I've got a nicer 600x65 image that I want to use, but only on the 3.x interface because that size image would push the buttons off the side of the screen in the 2.x interface, and I don't want to ruin it for those people who still use it.

How do I accomplish this?

Thanks,

Dan Carlson, Administrator, Subspace Comms Network
A Proud Mac User!

Hi Dan,

Unfortunately, you can't set specific title images for the 3.x interface vs. the 2.x interface. You would be able to if you have custom XSL available for your plan (I'm not sure if you do or not).

If you are still having difficulty updating your title image, you can do so from the style settings page. Under the 2.x images tab, the first image listed is the "Title" image. You can click on the edit link and enter the new URL for your image. This will update your title image (although the view link is broken, so you won't be able to view it from that page). You'll have to go to your categories & forums page to view the actual change.

Give that a shot and let me know how it goes Please let me know if I can be of further assistance!

Regards,

Brian Lenz
Infopop Corporation

That seems like a *very* glaring oversight, IMO -- given the drastically different organization of the page's buttons, why isn't it possible to assign different titles to different layouts?

I have absolutely no knowledge of XSL either, so I'm not all that eager to go in and change all the pages manually.

Furthermore, working through the Style Editor page -- the "2.x Images" tab -- is exactly what I've been trying to do all along. And when I attempted it just now, I couldn't even get the "edit" field (where I could enter the URL for the primary title image) to appear in the first place! (I'm working with Camino 0.7.0 at the moment.) So it's pointless to try to make changes anyway.

This is very frustrating! I can't control the board's control panel!

Dan Carlson, Administrator, Subspace Comms Network
A Proud Mac User!

Hi Dan,

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That seems like a *very* glaring oversight, IMO -- given the drastically different organization of the page's buttons, why isn't it possible to assign different titles to different layouts?

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The idea behind the 3.0 version of the interface is that it is the UI of the present and the future. The 2.x version of the interface is now deprecated and will not receive any further updates to it. All new features will go in the 3.0 version. We are leaving the 2.x templates in place so that other old, non-compliant browsers can still view all of the pages on your site, even though those pages may have limited functionality in the future compared to the 3.x templates. Because of this reasoning, we did not choose to use a different title image for 2.x versus 3.x.

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(I'm working with Camino 0.7.0 at the moment.)

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In order to get the edit field to appear, I'm going to recommend you do so with a more stable browser such as Internet Explorer 5.5/6 or Netscape 6/7. If you use either of those browsers you shouldn't have any problems. I don't believe that we have tested on Camino and given that it's not even to a 1.0 version, I doubt that we formally support it anyway. Give that a shot and let me know how it goes.

Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

Regards,

Brian Lenz
Infopop Corporation

Camino is the new name for Chimera. (Mozilla based)

I tried using the "vaunted" Internet Explorer 5.2.2 -- and although the field popped up, and I entered the URL of the new image, the change was NOT made.

There seems to be no good reason why I can enter information into just about any field I want on the main board, and yet in the control panel I can't update my info for the style settings. (Just about everything else seems to work -- I even banned a member this afternoon and took care of a few clean-up issues.)

And yes, Camino 0.7.0 is identical to Chimera, just using a different name for some legalese reason. It's still the same Mozilla-based browser.

Dan Carlson, Administrator, Subspace Comms Network
A Proud Mac User!

Hi Dan,

I understand your frustration. I'll forward this to our UI team to see if they can come up with a workaround for you.

Regards,

Brian Lenz
Infopop Corporation

I took a quick at the MAC handling of the edit field and see that it is tripping over the naming convention of 'id' vs 'name' attributes. Nothing serious -- but definitely annoying!

>>I've got a nicer 600x65 image that I want to use, but only on the 3.x interface because that size image would push the buttons off the side of the screen in the 2.x interface, and I don't want to ruin it for those people who still use it.

Ok - not a problem. In the 2.x interface the title image takes up only half the layout whereas in 3.x there is a full width. I can see why you want to do what you want to do !

To use 2 different images for the 2 layouts, do this:

1) Choose your 2.x image, apply it and make that layout look the way you want in 2.x.

2) Now make that image disappear entirely in 3.x. You want to access the id of the table in which it is placed id="gs_title_image_table" Paste into the 'head' area of your 'style':

<style>#gs_title_image_table{display:none} </style>

3) Now to have a new image area show up only in 3.x.

Paste in the Head area:

<script>
if(window.wait_message==null) { // this means it must be 2.x
document.write('<style>#my_title_id_here{display:none}</style>');// hide 3.x image in 2.x
} else {
document.write('<style>#ip-title-graphic-id{display:none}</style>');// hide 2.x image in 3.x

}

</script>

Now you can put in HTML for your new 3.x image in the "After Opening Body Tag" area of the same style. Only make *sure* you have included an id tag matching what attribute you put in above

eg

<table id="my_title_id_here" width="90%><tr><td><img src="/mynew/image/src.gif"> </td></tr></table>


What will this do? When a 2.x page loads, the title image shows up as usual and we hide the new 3.x code. But on a 3.x page, the js code instead hides the 2.x image DIV and allows your custom image to show up.

Michael Farris
Infopop Product Evangelist

Brian: Thank you for your help -- and for putting up with impatient users like me!

Michael: Thanks for this information! I assume that all of this will be input in the "HTML" tab of the Style Settings? I'm going to try fiddling with that right now, see how it goes. I'll post again if it doesn't work as I expect.

Dan Carlson, Administrator, Subspace Comms Network
A Proud Mac User!

Update: Success! It took me a few minutes going back and forth to figure out the proper ID tags in the proper places, but everything's working perfectly now.

I have a suggestion for streamlining this process, if this procedure is possible: since the current control panel setup already allows for both a primary and an "alternate" title image... why not include a preference in the "3.x Images" tab, where the admin can select "Use Alternate Image as Primary in 3.x Template"? That would remove the need to fiddle with 'document.write' scripts and the like. (Though I admit this wasn't too difficult at all.)

At any rate, thanks again for your help, Michael!

Dan Carlson, Administrator, Subspace Comms Network
A Proud Mac User!